August 4, 2021 Larry Visoski VTC Prep

August 4, 2021 Larry Visoski VTC Prep AUSA Det. Attorneys Glen McGorty, Danielle Giffuni, Daniel Zelenko Prepared for trial testimony. • Employer from 1991 through 2019 was Jeffrey Epstein, though was paid by NES LLC, reported to JE o 1991 until 2000, job titles were captain and aircraft maintenance o 2000 until 2019, job title was chief pilot • First hired in approximately July 1991 in Columbus, OH by JE o LV was living in Columbus, OH and working at the flight department next door to the Limited's flight department. One day, the Limited's chief pilot came to Dave Rodgers and LV and said that a friend of Mr. Wexner's was looking for pilots. DR's employer was selling its airplane, so LV and DR agreed to be introduced to JE o LV and DR were hired together and started working as pilots for JE together from 1991 through 2000. In 2000, they swapped roles because JE did not like the way DR flew the plane (specifically did not like the way DR landed the plane). After 2000, LV hired Bill Hammond to be another pilot for JE. • Job responsibilities 1991 through 2000 included tracking the maintenance on the aircraft and flying JE's planes as a captain • Job responsibilities 2000 through 2019 as chief pilot included record keeping and flight scheduling. • Pilots for JE kept the following records: o Flight log — kept track of total time on the aircraft, engine total time, and when certain checks were due on the airplane o Passenger manifest — kept track of the date of the flight, to and from which airport, exact time took off and landed, and passengers. If pilots did not know a passenger's name, would either put male or female. • Whoever was captain would complete the manifest for each leg of a flight, and would complete the manifest either during the flight or about 30 or 45 minutes after the flight. o The Pilots kept the paperwork in a binder in the plane, and then about once a month would fax the paperwork to JE's personal assistant. o LV's recollection is that he turned over a number of records to one of JE's attorneys in or about 2006. LV recalls definitely turning over the records for 1999 through 2006, and will check to confirm that he also turned over all records pre-1999 • During LV's employment with JE, JE owned the following: o First a Hawker Sidley HS125 (1991-1994) o Then in approximately 1994, bought a Gulfstream 2B 3527-012 Page 1 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000 10053 EFTA00159725 o Approx. 2001 bought Boeing 727 and kept both the G2 and the Boeing at that point o Approx. 2013 sold G2B and bought a G4 o Approx. 2016 sold the G4 and bought the G550 o Also owned helicopters • G2B interior: o Baseball glove leather, club seating for four, dining room table with two forward facing seats, behind that a divan, kitchen in the back. o Door separated passengers from pilots, was closed during flights, so pilots couldn't observe what passengers were doing during flights • Boeing interior: o Walk in and a very open floorplan, there was a couch and two chairs facing forward with a TV, behind that two couches facing each other with cocktail table and another passenger chair, in the middle was the kitchen, past the kitchen was the round room with two semi-circle couches, then JE's office with a desk and two chairs and a red couch, then there was a bedroom with a queen sized bed and two passenger chairs, then the bathroom in the back of that, also a bathroom at the front of the plane. o Every room or compartment had a door, so had a cockpit door and then each room had shut doors. Cockpit door was always closed in flight. So pilots could not observe what passengers were doing. A handful of times, the pilots may have gotten coffee during a flight, but infrequent. • Between 1994 and 2004, flew JE's planes approximately every four or five days, but had not set schedule and no set routine. o During that same period, the pilots received notice of upcoming flights from either one of JE's assistants, JE himself, or Ghislaine Maxwell. o At first, received notice via a beeper and would call the office to speak with an assistant, or sometimes JE. With the advent of cellphones, would get a call, and GM would sometimes call LV on the phone. o Typically received about one day's notice of an upcoming flight o Between 1994 and 2004, LV would call JE's assistant if there was a problem with one of the planes. Was very rare to call JE directly. o Between 1994 and 2004, JE took the Concord to Europe or took airlines when his plane was under maintenance, but otherwise only flew privately o LV did not have much interaction with passengers on the flights other than JE and GM because would either be up in the cockpit, or possible standing in the doorway when passengers arrive. So would have minimal interaction, possibly some small talk, but not much more. o LV learned the names of passengers when either JE, GM, or one of the assistants told the pilots the names, and many passengers became frequent fliers, so came to recognize them. 2 3527-012 Page 2 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFIA_000 10054 EFTA00159726 o LV did not learn the name of every single passenger who flew on JE's planes. That was because there were passengers who were not regular repeats, and the pilots did not have the opportunity to gather those passengers' names. • GM o LV first met GM in or about 1991 and recalls that he began working for JE before GM did o GM had shoulder-length black hair, a British accent, was attractive, and was about 29 years old when LV first met her o LV recalls that GM was on almost every flight from 1991 through the 2000s o In or about 2006 or 2007, LV noticed that GM broke away from JE and spent significantly less time flying with JE o Earlier on, GM she was an orchestrator who took care of JE's properties. Seemed to be an employee, then later on seemed to be more of a girlfriend. o Approx. 1991 through 1994, GM had a desk at Jeffrey's office at his office in NYC and had an assistant who helped her. o In approximately the mid-1990s, GM appeared to be interacting romantically with JE. o After that, GM still took care of the properties, involved in the decorating, the buying of everything. GM would talk about the work she was doing on the houses. o In the mid or late 1990s, GM told LV that she had a share in a beach jet that she had because she was tired of riding the airlines, which she had taken sometimes. • LV visited several of GM's residences in NY during his employment with JE. LV went to GM's residences to pick up luggage and to help her with home entertainment systems. o When LV first met GM, she was living in a small apartment in or about 1991. o Then in the mid-1990s, GM moved to an apartment on 84th Street, which was bigger. o Then in or about 2000, GM had a 5-story brownstone on 65ih Street. 65th Street Brownstone was a mini-version of JE's residence on 7181 street, entrance foyer, upstairs was living room, then in back on same floor was kitchen, third floor was guest bedrooms, fourth floor was master bedroom, fifth floor was home theater, and housekeeper lived on that floor too. • JE's office was located at 457 Madison Avenue until 2006. JE also had an office in Columbus, OH when LV first met JE. o LV went to JE's NY office about once a week to turn in expenses. It was on the fourth floor, come out of elevator to a receptionist, then accounting with four desks, if walk down corridor then personal assistant, to the left was Jeffrey's office, to the right was Ghislaine Maxwell's desk and office area and an office in the middle for the attorneys. • LV visited all of JE's residences during his employment with JE. Among other reasons, LV visited the residences to set up home theater equipment and TVs at JE's residence. o At first, JE lived on 69th Street in NYC, then about two or three years after LV started working for JE, JE moved to 71g Street. 3 3527-012 Page 3 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00010055 EFTA00159727 • LV been to 71° Street residence multiple times. Would go at least once a month to pick up luggage, also set up home theater there. • Giant front doors as walk in, left hand side had a round office where personal assistant would be based, across from that room is the security room with TV monitors monitoring the outside of the house, inside spiral staircase leading up to house, butlers kitchen, dining room, next floor is living room and gym, third floor master bedroom, sixth floor home theater, above that was the house manager's area. • If in Gulfstream, flew to Teterboro when JE was going to NY residence, but Boeing was too big for Teterboro, so in Boeing would go to Newark, JFK, or White Plains. o Palm Beach • LV been to PB many times. Bermuda style house, kitchen in the back, entrance to the front on the side of the street, semi-circle staircase up to bedrooms, pool in the back with dock on the intercoastal, pool house was JE's office with exercise room and stereo system in it, later on built staff quarters on the property. • Flew to PBI when JE was staying at the PB residence o Zorro Ranch in Santa Fe, NM • LV went to the ranch approximately 5 or 6 times per year. Visited the main residence on the ranch at least once per year. LV set up home entertainment system in the main residence on the ranch. • Ranch property, entrance had Ranch Central where all ranch hands and managers stayed; also had a barn with stalls for at least 15 horses, greenhouse, fire department there, three houses for the people who lived on the ranch to support it. About 4 miles to JE's main house, which was a 40,000 square foot house that was square and open in the middle. • JE got the ranch around the mid-1990s, at which point LV would stay in Ranch Central. Around 2000, LV got 40 acres of land and built a home on the ranch. • Approximately mid-I990s, the ranch was under construction. At first, JE put a triple wide mobile home on one of the cliffs and stayed there for a bit trying to get a feel for the area, and then at some point moved the mobile home to where the main house site was. JE lived in the mobile home/lodge for a couple years while the main house was under construction, which completed approximately around 2000. • When JE was staying at the ranch, between 1991 and 2000, landed in Santa Fe airport, in 2000 when had Boeing, would land in Albuquerque o Little St. James Island in St. Thomas USVI • LV been to the island many times because flew the helicopter there. Visited approximately twice per month during employment with JE. • Island had a helipad, tennis court on main hill, house was a separated house, meaning living room was its own building, master building own 4 3527-012 Page 4 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000 10056 EFTA00159728 house, kitchen own house, guest bedrooms were their own bungalow houses, had two pools one by main compound and another by the flagpole with a main office. • When JE was staying on the island, would fly into the main airport on St. Thomas in USVI. o Apartment in Paris • LV visited about five times • Apartment was on the second floor of the building, there was an entrance foyer, JE's office straight ahead, kitchen to the left, then long corridor with all bedrooms. LV was in the master once to put a TV in the master bedroom. Otherwise, LV only went there to pick up luggage. • When JE staying at Paris apartment, typically flew into Le Bourget, but may have landed at Charles de Gaulle if there were weather issues. • LV recalls flying Epstein to the airport in Traverse City, Michigan maybe twice a year in the earlier years of his employment with JE. LV recalls that it was warm when they flew to Traverse City. o LV understood that JE travelled to Traverse City to visit Interlochen music camp because JE was into the arts. Both JE and LV played piano. o LV definitely remembers JE and Itzhak Perlman flying to Traverse City, but cannot recall either way whether GM or went on any of those trips. o LV went into the main lobby of Interlochen once to pick up luggage. Cannot recall how long the drive was from airport to camp, may have been between 30 minutes and an hour. • LV recalls flying a passenger o LV recalls meeting in or about the mid-1990s o Jeffrey introduced to LV when LV was in the pilot's seat. JE brought up to show her the cockpit and said this is . LV recalled that o LV remembers being on the plane at least once, doesn't recall where were going or who else was on the plane. • LV recalls flying passenger whose name was named o LV recalls meeting in or about the early 2000s. o as a regular on the airplane. o LV recalls meeting • LV recalls flying one passenger with the first name o LV met in or about the early 2000s. o LV recalls that JE traveled with many females, and there were times when three or four females were on the flights, and LV did not get to know them. o • wasn't a long-term regular on the plan, but LV recalls taking at least 10 flights with JE, mostly on the Boeing. • LV recalls GM had assistants named and 'MI LV recalls started working as JE's assistant in or around the early 2000s. 5 3527-012 Page 5 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFIA_00010057 EFTA00159729 Giglio questions: 6 3527-012 Page 6 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_000 10058 EFTA00159730