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From:
jeffrey E. <[email protected]>
Sent:
Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 PM
To:
Richard Kahn
Subject:
Re: Larry G550 flight school with 8430 and GIV for Dave & Bill
Pay
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM=Richard Kahn <
<mailto
wrote:
> >
i was able to negotiate an additional 2,00= discount on larry from 59,400 to 57,400 and an additional
1,900=discount for both dave and bill hammond from 64,500 to 62,600 for a total =iscount of 5,800 or 3.1%
total cost 182,600 provided we pr=pay for all
unfortunately information originally presen=ed by Larry on 4/20/2017 was not accurate (see bottom of attached
email ch=in) as larry inferred that Syn Vision 4,700 and CPDLC 7,300 were included =n Flight Safety pricing
larry is eager to get dave and bill star=ed on training and securing slots
i am unaware if Simuflight inc=udes these two additional costs and note that Simuflight is 40k for G550 i=itial yet
recurrent for GIV is not clear (i have not spoken with vendor as=larry is very firm on using flight safety)
larry mentions that f=ight safety is more rigourous and fails people however when i spoke with g=egg he said
failing is rare and it would be hard to fail dave knowing he w=rks on Larry's team
please advise if ok to proceed and w=th or without extras as per pricing below or shall i call simulflight to o=tain
an accurate picture of cost differential
thank you
Larry V=/div>
6550 / B430 $57,400
CPDLC. 4>=AO
$ 7,300
Syn Vision. $ =,700
Total LV 4,=A0
$69,400
Dave Rodgers
=div>G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC.
=. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total
=C24/$74,600
Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. =C*562,600
CPDLC.
$. 7,300</=iv>
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total.
$74,600
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Total wit=out CPDLC and Syn Vision 182,600
=div>Total with CPDLC and Syn Vision 218,600 </=pan>
Richard Kahn
HBRK Asso=iates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
<=r class="m_5412757866552739395Apple-interchange-newline">
Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry <
Subject: Re: 6=50
Date: <=span>May 25, 2017 at 11:13:49 AM EDT
To: Richard Kahn <
Rich
Jeffrey ask=d me the difference between FSI FlightSaftey and CAE Simuflite training, s=nce its a
$20k difference between schools.
FSI is a more Regimen=ed and Harder to pass a pilot with lower than average skills, FSI would
no= offer a Type Rating class to Nadia due to her experience level.Q=A0 I've seen 3 pilots in my classes held back for
more training, I'=ve trained the past 10 years at FSI,. Dave attends CAE,. It's time for=all of our pilots to be test properly.
It's the difference between Har=ard and a Community collage.
Here is what i=come up with total training, pls advise if approved?
<=iv>Definitions:
CPDLC = Controller-Pilot Data Link Communicati=n.
Syn Vision = Synthetic Vision.
HUD = Head= Up Display, included in G550 initial training.
EVS = En=anced Vision System, Included in G550 initial training.
Larry V
G550 / B430 $57,400
CPDLC. =
$ 7,300
Syn Vision. $ 4,7=0
Total LV =
$69,400
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Dave Rodgers
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC.
$. =C241)7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total
Q=AO$74,600
Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. 4)=A0$62,600
CPDLC.
$. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total.
$74,600
=div>
Total training with FlightSaftey
$218,600
Thank you,
Larry
=div>
Sent from my iPad
On May 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Richard Kahn <
> wrote:
i did n=t see your response or may have missed it..
can you please be sp=cific on additional training needed along with cost so i can present
to je= total cost
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
57= Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On May 25, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Larry=Visoski <
<mailto
> wrote:
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Hi Rich,.
I thought I copied you on=my response to Greg in reference to enhanced
training„
Below is=Greg's response and reduce pricing for
CODLC„
HUD and EVS included in initial„
See below email Trail <=div>
Thx
Larry
Sent from m= iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Richard Kahn <
<mailto
needed.
<mailto
> wrote:
> >
Date= May 25, 2017 at 10:15:32 AM EDT
To: Larry Visoski <
S=bject: Re: G550
Yes but you never responded or communicated if any ancillary=courses are
Richard =ahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
=div style="direction:inherit">575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On May 25, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Larry Visoski <
=div>
Hi Rich,.
=div>I'd like to get closure on G550 training and pick class dates.4,=A0
Are you satisfied with Greg's counter offer?
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
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<mailto
<mailto
Begin forwarded message:
=div>From: "Williford, Greg" <
Date: May 23, 2017 at 3:47:25 PM EDT
To: Larry=Visoski «mailto
Cc: Richard Kahn <
», "McCann, =uzanne" <
Subject: R=: G550
Hi Larry and Rich,
/a»
Her= are your special rates for the G550 Ancillary courses, if needed:<=>
4>=ACI
EVS - $0 (covered in the G550 Initi=l)
=C24> HUD - $0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
=C24k
Enhanced Navig=tion (CPDLC, WAAS, ADS-C) - $7,300 each
40=A0
Normally $9,500 under One Time or Two Eve=t
=C24> Gulfstream Synthetic Vision - $4,700 each 44=A0
=C24>
4>=A0
=C24> Normally $7,500 under One Time or Two Event
=C240
Gulfstre=m XM Aviation - $445
=C24fr
4>=A0
=C240
4>=A0
=C24> Normally $555 under One Time or Two Event
=span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-
=erif";color:#1f497d">Please advise on which of the above you'=l need based upon your particular serial number and
also which account you=E24>4>d like the training to be on.
A=I the best,
Greg
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=C2*
</=iv>
Greg Williford=u>
Regiona= Sales Director
FlightSafety International
<mailto
=C240
</=iv>
4)=A0
approve
From: Larry Visoski Ima=lto:[email protected] <mailto
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:47 AM
=b>To: Williford, Greg
Cc: Richard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
<=>Subject: Re: G550
>
Ok pls include =pecial pricing for EVS/HUD and CODLC training for Mr Kahn to
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2017,=at 11:40 AM, Williford, Greg
wrote:<=>
Hi Larry,
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4>=AO
Full Service covers a few of the "nice to know" enrichme=ts like cold weather
ops, TAWS, CFIT, etc. and Full Service also gives dis=ounts for many of the ancillary courses. However, the Two Event
prog=am is not Full Service and covers two specific events per pilot. Tha= said, with the commitment you and Rich are
making to FlightSafety for all=three pilots, we may be able to provide the Full Service rates for the anc=llary courses like
Enhanced Nav and Synthetic Vision, etc.
Att=ched are fact sheets on Enhanced Nav, Synthetic Vision, XM Aviation
Weathe= and CPDLC elearning. Let me know if you wish to take any of these o= other ancillary courses and I can include
your special prices in the Agre=ment.
I'm available by phone
if you'd li=e to discus.
Yes we have HUD and EVS„
Also need advanced Navigation course for CPDLC as well„ is this done o= Line or
in Classroom format?
On May 23, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Williford, Greg
> wrote:
Hi Mr. Richa=d,
<=>
Great to speak with you a=ain yesterday and thank you for this opportunity to
be of service.<=>
</=>
I have discussed your counter propos=l with our team and we are able to come
very close to meeting your request=:
1.
</=pan>We are able to offer you a G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurren=
within 14 months for Larry at $57,400 each
2.
We are ab=e to offer you G550 Initial with Gulfstream G•IV Recurrent
within 14 month= for your other two pilots at $62,600 each
3.
We will pr=pare a contract for all three pilots for your signature. Upon
signin=, we will create invoices for each pilot and ask that the three invoices b= prepaid ($182,600 total) before the first
training session for the first =ilot on the schedule.
Our G550 Initial course covers HUD and EVS. Please advise if th= unit you have
purchased has Enhanced Navigation, Synthetic Vision and/or =M Weather and we can get you pricing for those
courses.</=>
Lastly, we have at least three different accoun=s set up for your current
airplanes and will need to consolidate the train=ng for all three pilots onto one. When you are ready to move forward=
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please advise which account will be best for the scheduling, contract and=billing and we will send you the Agreement for
Training under that account=to cover your special rates.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Wi=liford
Regional S=les Director
Fli=htSafety International
mailto
<=pan style="font-size:11ptfont-family:Calibri,sans-serif:color:rgb(31,73=125)">
<=div>
Begin forwarded=message:
From: "Williford, Greg" <
<mailto
Subje=t: RE: G550
Date: May 22, 2017 at 8:08:28 AM EDT
To: Richar= Kahn <
<mailto:
Hi Richard,
I was on vacation Thursday and Friday...=sorry I missed your calls and email. I'm
in the office today=and looking forward to speaking with you. Please call me whene=er convenient at
or
let me know a good time to reach out to y=u.
All the best,<=>
Greg=/span>
Gre= Williford
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</=>
<=>From:=/b> Rich=rd Kahn [mail=o1MIMMIIIMMI
<mailto
>
Sent: Friday, May 19, =017 3:50 PM
To: Williford, Greg
Subject: Re:=G550
=C24>
i just called your office and cel=
can you please call =e on my cell when you have time so we can hopefully move
forward together<=>
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575=Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
</=>
On May 18, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Richard Kahn c
&g=;
wrote:
t=e end of the week
each pilot
$62,000 each pilot
<=u>
good morning
<=iv>
happy to hear that you and larry have again been=in touch
i am m=eting with our principal today as he wants to make a decision on this by
=/u>
can you please rev=ew your pricing and agree to move forward as follows:
<=div>
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months - $57,5=0
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV =ecurrent within 14 months -
</=lockquote>
40=A0
discount requested 1500 +=2500 + 2500 = 6,900 or 3.66% of 188,400 total cost
</=iv>
i strongly believe we can make this happen =ith above prices
plea=e advise
thank you=/u>
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexing=on Avenue 4th Floor
New York. NY 10022
</=>
Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry Visoski <->=u>
Subject: Fwd: G550 </=iv>
Date: May 15, 2017 at 5:38:52 PM EDT
c=iv>
To: Ri=h Kahn <
<mailto
>, Je vacation <jeevacation@gmailcom <mailto:[email protected]»<=>
From FlightSaftey
</=iv>
Sent from my iPhone
=/div>
Begin forwarded message:<=p>
Vincent&=uot; <
From: "Williford, Greg" <
<mailto
Subject: RE= G550
Hi Larry,
> >
>, "Parrish,
As you know, we have sev=ral pricing options, including the Two Event/13
Month contract (2 sessions=per pilot within 14 months). The Two Event program offers additional=discounts off the
One Time pricing by prepaying the two events at the star= of the contract period. We can "mix" aircraft types under=the
Two Event pricing option as long as the training and contract is all w=th one account.
each pilot
Listed below are your prices for 2017:
TWO EVENT
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell =30 Recurrent within 14 months - $59,400
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Gulfstr=am G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months -
$64,500 =ach pilot
Please let me know if you have questions and if we can be=of service in any
way.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford<=r>Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
Original Message
From: Larry V=soski (mailto
<mailto
>1
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 3:55 PM
To: Williford, Gre=; McClendon, Woody; Parrish, Vincent; Martinez, Melanie
Subject: G550=C2*
Hello Greg„
I have 2 pilots that require;
6550 initial=training,
And GIV Reccurent„
Can you price this for me?
I ne=d G550 Initial plus Bell 430 recurrent myself„ Can you present a full
pac=age to sign with Flight saftey with above Request?
Thx
Larry Vis=ski
Plan D, LLC G550
lege Llc GIV
Hyperion Ai=, LLc Bell 430
Sent from my iPhone
Rich
Yes Dave, Bill and I have completed =raining in GIV in past 12 months,. Greg
Williford is with Flight Saftey, h= didn't realize I trained with simuflite this past year
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=/div>
My plan was to send Dave Rodgers to Flight Saftey for G550 initi=l,
I was planning to send Bill Hammond and myself to=simuflight,. For cost
savings„
I told Jeffrey that Flight Safte= has a more thorough flight training program that
Dave would benefit from,= Plus not everyone passes the course at FlightSafety much more stringent,.=/div>
If we want to save $20,000 per person in training cost we all co=ld attend
Simuflite if you like?
Larry
Simuflite CAE GIV recurrent training March 2017,. Due GIV in March 20=8.
Dave Rodgers
Simuflite C=E trained Aug 2016,. Is due for recurrent Aug 2017.,
<=iv>William Hammond
Trained FlightSatfey
July 201=,. Is due for ReCurrent July 2017.,
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 25, 201=, at 11:41 AM, Richard Kahn <
<mailto:
> wrote:
ok
larry can you please provide last GIV training=dates (dave, bill and yourself) as i
believe i was told by greg wilford of=flight safety that we may have to do separate training for GIV if GV not d=ne either
within 12 months or 1 month thereafter..
i just inform=d jee of this but did not have dates and need to verify timing
<=r>
<=iv style="word-wrap:break-word">Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
=75 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:50 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wr=te:
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i think it best that we wait, until closer to the itme the pla=e is ready from erics
i dont want dave or larry to=have 4 months between training and flying
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Larry V=soski <
<mailto
> wrote:
Rich</=iv>
just spoke with greg and he said you negotiated the best deal p=ssible
list for initial and recurrent is 121,000 which he then reduced=to 91,000 and
then again to 77,500
initial and recurrent
target="_blank">2=2-320-0381
<mailto
> wrote:
guy„ he understands negotiations
unfortunately after 2 phone c=Ils and almost 2 hours on the phone no such luck
=an you please send me simuflight contact info as well as they are at 65,75= for
thanks
=br>
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue*=A04th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr 21, 2017, =t 9:30 AM, Larry Visoski <
For Sure,. De=initely worth a try;
Try this person first,.
Flight Saftey sales rep;
Gulfstream Sales training =/div>
Greg Wilford
=/div>
Woody McClendon is my Bell 430 Heli sales rep„ and close acquai=tances„ nice
Sent from my iPhone
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<mailto
discuss game pla=. Thanks.
initial class.
<=iv>
On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Richard Kahn <
> > wro=e:
lee wants me to give n=gotiating a shot. Please send me contact info and call to
Richard Kahn =/div>
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Subject: Fwd: G5=0 training Dave May 1st
make a deal for three pilots. all recuurent wi=h recurrent 430 for tarry
Fo=warded message
From: Larr= <
<mailto
Date: Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM
Subject: =Re: G550 training Dave May 1st
To: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]</=»
> >
All prices quoted from Simuflight or Flight Saf=ty is considering 3 pilots for G550
Simuflite Price is $40k for G550 Init=al class,.
Following year, re-Current train=ng is $25,750
Bell =30 item,
This was Flight Saftey quote for m=, which included the Bell 430 re-current and
6550 initial, price is $59,40= which is 550 initial and Bell 430 recurrent,. I would need a 6550 recurre=t the next year,
which is an additional $25k.,
peopl=
Sent from my =Pad
On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:44 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]>= wrote:
it says bell 430?=C24> how much was simuflite and what is the price for 3
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=n Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Larry Visoski <->
wro=e:
Jeffrey
"Flight Saftey" in Dallas has =tart date May 1st G550 initial class. Ends May 23rd,
which includes Check =ide, Advance Navigation course w/CPDLC, and Synthetic Vision class that in=ludes Sim time using
HUD "Heads Up Display" and EVS "Enhanc=d Vision System" ops in the Simulator.
Single time event is $6=,100 for Initial.
Dual event which covers 24 month is $77,500
After =nitial training, the following year Recurrent G550 training is $25,700
=br>Option
1-Do you want Dave to do Single event Initial for $62,100
=r
2- the two year program which is G550 Initial and includes Next years=Recurrent
training total $77,500
Option 1 or 2 ?
ThxLarry
Hi Larry,
Congrats on the pending purchase on=the G550 and thanks for your email.
We'd like to amend the prop=sal we sent to you on February 3rd with the
following special Two Event pr=ces for 2017:
TWO EVENT AGREEMENT
Gulf=tream G550 Initial with G550 Recurrent for the same pilot within 13
months=- $77,500 each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430=Recurrent for the same pilot within 13
months - $59,400 each pilot
=s discussed, we don't offer G-V with G550 differences and only offer G=50
training in our G550 sims due to safety concerns based on discussions w=th GAC, our customer advisory boards and
customers. The prices above=will cover the "type specific" 6550 and Bell 430 training.
Please let me and/or Woody know if you have any questions. We look =orward
to being of service.
All the best,
Greg
Sent from =y iPad
=/div>
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